tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338557.post4833794083267842190..comments2023-08-18T04:37:47.001-04:00Comments on Byzantium's Shores: chronicling the misadventures of an overalls-clad hippie: Answers, the second!Kelly Sedingerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10704114189919711467noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338557.post-86196615350096374552013-08-22T19:07:44.646-04:002013-08-22T19:07:44.646-04:00Well...I hope there's a line between selling m...Well...I hope there's a line between selling my novel's movie rights and <i>Jackass</i>, which is...pretty icky! :)Kelly Sedingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704114189919711467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338557.post-16011511403879492622013-08-22T09:23:09.222-04:002013-08-22T09:23:09.222-04:00Yeah, I get the money thing. A guy I know from hig...Yeah, I get the money thing. A guy I know from high school is working as an animator in Hollywood and his partner, al, is an exec at Sony. I visited with them and after talking I found out al loves the Jackass movies.<br /><br />I told him I thought they were stupid.<br /><br />His condescending response "do you KNOW how much money those guys make?"<br /><br />As if that is the ultimate justification for making a mockery of art. This guy is supposed to be a gatekeeper for the cinema (I mean he does listen to screen pitches) and he is entertained watching someone ride a baby carriage into a row of hedges.<br /><br />Money and art...Earlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338557.post-37885269962580495252013-08-21T22:45:52.033-04:002013-08-21T22:45:52.033-04:00Shouldn't your link read, "that what the ...Shouldn't your link read, "that what the Founding Fathers wanted really should NOT be terribly relevant to us today." Because that's what I got out of the post you linked to. Bonnie McDanielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03844134292228113704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338557.post-46345686705165198482013-08-21T20:20:43.409-04:002013-08-21T20:20:43.409-04:00I'm reminded of something Michael Caine once s...I'm reminded of something Michael Caine once said, regarding <i>Jaws 4</i>, which is widely held to be one of the worst movies ever, and for the filming of which he had to miss that year's Oscars, at which he won. He just shrugged and said, "That movie bought me a <i>beautiful</i> house!"Kelly Sedingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704114189919711467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338557.post-17213584564263952562013-08-21T20:19:39.024-04:002013-08-21T20:19:39.024-04:00Earl: Oh, believe me, if anyone ever wants to give...Earl: Oh, believe me, if anyone ever wants to give me a check for the honor of turning a book of mine into a movie, I'm taking the money and running!Kelly Sedingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704114189919711467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338557.post-23806358998126122682013-08-21T17:48:54.701-04:002013-08-21T17:48:54.701-04:00How about the novel that becomes a screenplay? Is ...How about the novel that becomes a screenplay? Is that the best of both worlds or does the author end up feeling like a prostitute?Earlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338557.post-47341244751927906392013-08-21T17:04:50.232-04:002013-08-21T17:04:50.232-04:00"...my sense of things is that screenwriters ..."...my sense of things is that screenwriters have even less general chance of seeing their work produced correctly than novelists."<br /><br />For what it's worth, I co-wrote a screenplay a number of years ago and actually came pretty close to a sale with it (although "close" doesn't really count, I suppose...), so I have some insight into that. <br /><br />You're quite right in that the movie-making process compels you to start watering down your original story before you even make the sale. My writing partner and I managed to get our screenplay in front of several actual Hollywood producer types, guys with pages on IMDB and the whole bit, and each of them provided notes of what they thought the movie ought to be... so we'd rewrite to suit that guy's sensibilities, telling ourselves that there was still enough of the essence of what we originally wrote that we could live with the changes, only to see the deal fall through. We did that half a dozen times and (I felt) each time got further and further away from what was interesting and unique about our story to start with. And then the terms of the contracts we were seeing (and we did at least get to look at them, even though nothing ever came of it) usually gave us one shot at a rewrite once a sale was made, and then other writers could come in and redo it in their vision. And of course we were well aware that EVERYBODY was going to have a vision in this, from the producer to the director to the actors to the craft services guy. My partner was fine with that; he just wanted the paycheck. I had a more difficult time with the idea that whatever (might have) eventually wound up on the screen wouldn't be ours, not really, even if we had on-screen credits (which we wouldn't, necessarily, depending on how things evolved). <br /><br />I know, of course, that there are rewrites and editors involved in publishing a novel, too, but my sense is that what ultimately ends up on the shelf at Barnes and Noble is much more the true work of the novelist than a finish movie is of the screenwriter. While I enjoyed working in the form during the initial creation, I don't think I'd ever be really happy working in that industry...jasonhttp://www.jasonbennion.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338557.post-85143196276321356352013-08-21T07:32:16.408-04:002013-08-21T07:32:16.408-04:00I the hierarchy of insults, dickweed is the tamest...I the hierarchy of insults, dickweed is the tamest, followed by asshat and, only for the most irritating, douchnozzle. What am I missing?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05242322423377111975noreply@blogger.com